From Stay-at-Home Mom to Solo Superstar: Jessica's Journey

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:00:01

You're listening to Breaking the Script. I'm Angela Kristen Taylor. This isn't another real estate podcast about tactics, market trends, or the next lead generation strategy.

This is where real estate agents talk candidly about what actually gets in the way.

The pressure we carry, the personal history that shows up in our business, the parts of ourselves that complicate how we work, the things nobody talks about. Because success in this business, it isn't just about knowing what to do.

It's about understanding why we can't seem to do it consistently even when we know better. So let's go off script and talk about the real obstacles. Hey, everybody.

Welcome to our very first episode of Breaking the Script, where I have the uber successful agent Jessica Wade here with me. And Jessica, thank you so much for being here with us today.

Jessica Wade: 00:01:14

Thanks, Angela. I am happy to be here.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:01:18

Now, Jessica, why don't you, why don't you tell me a little bit about where you're at in your real estate business today so that people kind of understand who they're listening to.

Jessica Wade: 00:01:30

Yes. So I am Jessica Wade. I'm located in northeast Georgia, and I am a solo producing agent.

I have been in the top 1% of solo producing agents for the last four years in the country. And so I work very hard and carry a lot of volume. And, and I'm married and I have three children and the youngest just turned 18.

So I'm in the next season of Life.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:01:58

That's awesome. So let me, let's go back a little bit. Let's talk about when you first got started in real estate.

I know everybody would love to hear when they hear about someone who's as successful in real estate as an agent as you are, they kind of wonder, like, where did that person get started? What's the journey been? Like, how were they as a brand new agent? And then how did they get here? Like, how did that all happen?

So just let it go and tell us about the journey.

Jessica Wade: 00:02:28

Yes. And I think it's so important for agents to recognize there is a journey to top producers. So we didn't get here overnight.

It took a lot of grit and grind and dedication. And so, yes, I'm happy to share my story. So I started out in real estate. Let me back up. I was stay at home mom 12 and a half years.

And my husband said, when Madison goes to kindergarten, you should try real estate. And I was like, oh, my goodness. Really? Like, try real estate. I have heard you do not get paid to try it. And so he's like, you can do it.

I see you in it.

And so I took his advice and I put a couple of feelers out, and I thought, okay, when she goes to kindergarten, I'm going to work for an agent and try to absorb some knowledge. And so I did get paid to try it.

And that was a really good kind of stepping stone for me because it put me in a position where I could get mentored by another successful agent. So started out as his assistant. We complimented our skill sets very well. He asked if I wanted to be his business partner.

I was very honored and took him up on it. We started a real estate team. We had a number one team at the brokerage that year. And so I kind of just dove in head first.

You know, if you think about it, I was owning a real estate team and had been in the business less than a year. And then we felt like we outgrew that brokerage and we opened up our own brokerage.

So now I've been in the business less than three years and I'm owning a brokerage. Then my partner, about two years into owning the brokerage, he retired. And so I was left running a brokerage and definitely way in over my head.

Lots of things happened. I started to pour 100% of myself into the business, and it really put a lot of strain on myself, on my marriage, on my finances.

Running a brokerage is very costly. A lot of times agents don't appreciate what the brokers are truly going through. And I was truly going through a hard time. I didn't take a paycheck.

My husband's like, what are you doing? And I thought, you're not going to tell me what to do. I'm pursuing a dream and I'm going to make this successful.

And you can see that that did not end well for us. So I ended up leaving my husband because nobody is going to control me. And I'll tell you, that was a really, really hard season to go through as a.

Just as a business owner, as a wife, as a mom, to be feeling like I had to. To attain more in the real estate space at the cost of what.

And, you know, I'm so passionate now about helping agents just kind of recognize like our business is our business and it. We don't have to lose it at the cost of ourselves and our relationships. So it was a really, really hard season.

I did make the decision to close the brokerage. Thankfully, my husband and I reconciled. We just celebrated 25 years of marriage, so that was great.

But once I closed the brokerage again, that was kind of this other crash moment, like, what am I doing in real estate? I felt like the door had slammed closed and real estate wasn't for me.

wait a minute, so this was in: 2019

So per year. So it's been a lot. But then comes the next crash, because I'm working 247 without any boundaries again.

At this point, I do have the income and I have my husband's support, but I'm still broken and going, what is going on here?

And so, you know, you can look at a top producing agent and they look like they're successful, but the reality is you don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

And I think it's so important as agents to just recognize that the social media, Instagram, Facebook posts and accolades and all the things can look all glamorous because I got all of them. But it doesn't mean that things are good internally and on the home front.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:06:29

Yeah. Thank you so much for sharing that, because you're 100% right.

There is such a journey involved and what agents are showing on social media and in emails and on online and things like this, that they're just. They're not always showing the full picture. And a lot of times agents are. They're so ashamed to share any part of themselves that feels like it's.

It's less than desirable.

Jessica Wade: 00:07:00

Right.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:07:01

And a lot of that goes back into an experience of feeling like if we share our true selves, our whole selves, then we'll be rejected, and we're only accepted for the level of success that we share. And so it becomes very hard to be able to share our real stories and our whole selves. And when we are.

When we block ourselves from sharing all of this, the stuff. Right. The heavy parts of our lives, the. That we feel most isolated because that's when we.

We detach our actual experience from what everybody else sees. And when we do that, we're trying to juggle two different versions of ourselves. Would that feel accurate for you in those moments?

Jessica Wade: 00:07:55

A hundred percent. And, you know, the real estate world, it rewards performance and it doesn't reward purpose.

And, you know, if you really kind of just dive into that thought process, you know. Yeah. You've got two different things going on. You know, I. I'm a high performer. I want to perform. I want to win.

I'm competitive, you know, and so I, here I am chasing these performance based goals and leaving out what is my purpose and why am I working so hard and why am I doing this and at what cost am I doing this. So yeah, it's a totally, it's a double edged, kind of soared, so to speak, on, on who you are.

When you become in this, like a real estate agent, you feel like you have to work all the time. I feel like that's what the industry kind of tells us. And that's not reality.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:08:41

No, it's not. It's not reality at all. And yet it's what so many agents are focused on trying to create and maintain.

So what advice do you have for an agent maybe who's new and starting out and feeling like they don't know how to get their feet wet in the business? And what would you say to them?

Jessica Wade: 00:09:05

Yeah, I, you know, I would encourage an agent to just get started. You never, you, you don't know what you don't know yet.

And so a lot of times I'll see agents just kind of sit there and they just don't even know how to get started. And I encourage agents, like just take that next step. You know, call a friend and invite them to coffee. Like that could be your, your first step.

And then explain that you're a real estate agent. You know, start small, but take steps. Each step will be a part of your journey and you have no idea how far it will take you.

I also encourage agents to find a good mentor. You know, when you get into this business, it's hard. I'm not going to sugarcoat it.

And I was so fortunate to find a really good mentor to help me and to just kind of help me, like give me some of those, those bumpers like in bowling, you know, where I, even though I kind of went off the, you know, rails a few times here and there, having somebody to say, you know, hey, is this really what you want to do? Is this really who you are? You know, I, of course I totally ran all over those, those kind of guardrails, so to speak, at certain times.

Because I'm very, like I said, I'm very passionate, I'm very committed, I'm very goal and I really want to compete and I want to win. So I would push those boundaries.

But to have somebody that will help you recognize that you shouldn't operate your business from a fear or scarcity mindset, because when you do, that's when you start really compromising who you Are and, you know, setting some boundaries.

I wish somebody would have maybe been a little bit more harsh on me at the beginning to say, listen, do you want to answer calls at 9 and 10 o' clock at night? Like, can you really do anything? Is anybody else working at that time? You know, those types of things. So just go for it and do it. Awesome.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:10:52

Now, I want to, I want to touch on that. What you just said about having somebody that was a little harder on you in putting those things about. Do you really want this? Right?

Do you really want to take Those calls at 9 and 10 o' clock at night? And if someone had asked you that when you were new, being the competitive person that you are, what do you think you would have said?

Jessica Wade: 00:11:15

You know, I probably would have discounted it. You know, like, that's just the reality of it.

And I think, you know, as with all things life, you learn from experience, you know, and, and I think we, sometimes we have to learn these lessons the hard way for them to stick. But I will tell you guys, turning off my notifications when I get home at night has been a game changer. And my business has not suffered.

I have only become more productive and, and more wise with my time by taking control of my time and taking control. I don't want to say I take control of my clients, but I set clear expectations with my clients and then they respect that.

So, you know, taking control and just like really putting a boundary on the business and recognizing that being a real estate agent is not our identity, it's our job, and we should be doing good jobs, but we don't need to breathe real estate 24 7.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:12:09

You know, that's, it's really important for agents to hear. Hear that especially from an agent like you.

And I think that a lot of times, you know, they think if I put up these boundaries, then I'm creating a problem, I'm being a problem, and I'm not being of the highest level of service that I could be to my clients.

And so they feel like if their clients need them, then they should show up no matter what, no matter what's going on in their lives, no matter what's happening, no matter what time it is, any of those things.

And it's that part right there that can become some of the biggest barriers for agents, because they're going to feel again, kind of like we talked about before, kind of wearing two different masks of how you show up in your world, right? Who you really are, and here's how you show yourself to be and then we also have this split because now you have demands maybe at home.

Jessica Wade: 00:13:11

Right.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:13:12

And then you also have demands from your clients. And if you're trying to meet everyone's demands all the time without any parameters around them, then that's when we burn out. We become overwhelmed.

We shut down and we stop doing the things that are going to move our business forward or we shut out the people that we care about because we're putting all of our focus on pleasing everyone else.

Jessica Wade: 00:13:42

Right? Yeah, absolutely.

And, you know, somebody said this to me and it really resonated is, are there really emergencies in real estate or are there just some urgencies? Occasionally there's an urgency. But do we really have emergencies? No, we really don't. If, if we're doing our jobs well, we don't have emergencies.

So we don't need to be in that state of, you hyper ness of, you know, like, oh my gosh, if I get that call and I don't answer it, you know, somebody's, you know, something terrible is going to happen. Well, that's really true. You know, as long as you're keeping a good eye on your deadlines and those types of things. It was funny.

I had a HOA president and we got a frantic phone call. You know, the, the boat docks are. Have. Have disconnected from the shoreline and the, the docks are floating out.

You know, HOA president, you need to get there now. And he was like, what am I going to do? You know, like there was nothing that he could do to fix that. He could make some phone calls.

And I think sometimes in our business we feel like, oh my gosh, this is floating away. We've got to go and fix it immediately. But in reality, you know, what are you going to do? You make some phone calls and kind of keep it in its place.

So that was just impactful to me is that there's not really emergencies in our, in our industry.

We have urgency occasionally but don't have to stay in that state of, oh my gosh, something's going to happen if I don't answer that call or I don't respond to that email right away. Yeah.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:15:11

You know, it reminds me too, around kind of these boundaries to set around our time and our energy.

Jessica Wade: 00:15:18

Right.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:15:19

When my, when my kids were little and I remember my, my oldest son, Henry, and when he was maybe around 4 years old, something like that, and he came to me and he said, mama, Mama, look at this, look at this. And I said, I can't. Just one more minute. I'm working on something Just one more minute. And I. I will look at it.

And he said, I can't remember, is that one or two spongebob episodes? And I thought. I mean, heartbreaking, right? To think, one more minute, and we've all done it. We're looking at our screen.

We're telling our kid like this, one more minute, one more minute, right? Holding our finger up. And they recognize that as how long it normally takes.

For us, in our minds, it's one more minute, but for them, it's 30 minutes to an hour, because that's how long it actually is, right? And it takes your child putting that in your face in that way before you realize, oh, my gosh, I have a problem here.

Jessica Wade: 00:16:30

Right?

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:16:30

I have a problem here.

And that's when I really started to get a hold of, like, what was going on with my time and where were my boundaries and what was really important to me. And I remember this was a few years later, my. My daughter and she. So she's my second, and she.

She was probably maybe about 8 years old at this point, and she comes to me and says, I want to do something together. We don't spend enough time together, and I really want to do things with you. And I'm like, okay, what do you want to do with me?

And she's like, I don't know. Maybe we could play a game or watch a movie. I'm like, okay, why don't you pick out a movie and we watch it later? She's like, okay, great.

So she picks out a DVD, you know, back in the day, she's 23 now, and she picks out a DVD and she had it sitting out. And by the time I finished working, I come out into the living room, and she's sitting there asleep on the sofa with the DVD there.

And I never had come out to watch it. That's sad, right?

Jessica Wade: 00:17:36

Hard.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:17:37

It's very hard. And so I realized, like, again, here, I'm still having trouble with my time.

And so what I did is a lot of it wasn't just that I didn't want to do these things. I wanted to do these things. I wanted to do them as much as she did. I wanted to spend as much time with her as she wanted to spend with me.

It was being realistic about how long it took me to do things and how much time I was taking away from my family to do them when it could have waited till the next day. It's not that big a deal. It's an urgency, maybe not an emergency, and maybe that urgency isn't so urgent at all.

Jessica Wade: 00:18:17

Right, right.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:18:18

And so what I did was I actually put her as a time block in my calendar. Every day at 7pm she was on my calendar. And I showed her that she was on my calendar.

And what really blew me away was how excited she was to share space with my work. Because in her mind, that was what was really important to me.

Jessica Wade: 00:18:45

Yeah.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:18:45

And that was another lesson in boundaries.

Jessica Wade: 00:18:48

That's hard. That is. You know, and, and unfortunately, you know, we learn these lessons the hard way.

So, you know, if you're a newer agent, please glean some wisdom from me and Angela because we needed more, like, you know, people just saying, listen, you only have these children for a season. You know, My youngest is 18 now. And, you know, like, you're just like, wait a minute, now that season is gone, you know, like, that's. That's surreal.

So whatever your. Your passion is, don't let it go by the wayside just because you're a real estate agent.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:19:24

100%.

Jessica Wade: 00:19:25

Yeah.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:19:27

So what. What's.

Jessica Wade: 00:19:29

Let's.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:19:29

Let's look at your business today, and let's look at what are some ways that you feel like you're really growing right now? What are some things that you're looking forward to next? Because I want agents who are saying, okay, yeah, she's successful, I'm successful.

What comes after that? What's after success? What then?

Jessica Wade: 00:19:53

Yeah, yeah, I know. And, you know, it's so interesting. I had a person recently asked me, like, what is enough?

You know, like, if you looked at, you know, my, my income per se last year, like, holy cow, I would have never guessed I could have made, you know, generated that much income in a year. But then it was like, do I double it again this year? Do I, you know, what do I do with that goal? And I was like, no, you know what? This.

This is enough. I am successful where I'm at. I am in a position to, you know, not be number one.

You know, I. I am in a place where I'm going to let go of that competitiveness this year, and I'm excited to just really think about, you know, what is important to me. And let's kind of put those priorities back in line.

And I'll tell you, it's scary, you know, Like, I know this year I'm going to get a whole lot of accolades for my business last year, and then I'm like, next year I'm not going to get these accolades. Am I going to be okay? And I'm like, yes, I'm going to be just fine.

Because what matters is what I'm providing to my family, what I'm providing to myself. So I think, you know, success looks different for everybody. And I, I just had never had anybody ask me that question, what is enough?

And that was like, that was the showstopper for me. Like, what is enough? Is it to keep winning or is it to just really kind of follow more of my purpose and my passion?

And, you know, I'm in a place where I want to share some of the stories that I've had. I want to be a mentor to others.

I want to encourage newer real estate agents in the profession and just help them see that you can have an incredible business and an incredible home life and balance those two and, and have a lot of joy and a lot of peace in your business.

And so that's, you know, I'm going to start stepping outside my comfort zone a little bit and doing some podcasts like this, and I'm super excited about, about it. I'm excited about the pruning process. You know, I'm still on my journey. And we're going to, we're going to adjust and recalibrate.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:21:52

Yeah, that's really great. And, you know, it's, it's interesting because you haven't mentioned this, but I'm going to just going to throw that out there.

You're doing a lot of events and you're getting up and you're speaking and you're teaching and you're leading and you're, you're sharing your experiences with agents, and you're creating opportunities for them to grow and to learn and to expand, not just as agents, but as people. And that's huge. And you're having fun with it. So tell them about your event that you have on May 4th.

Jessica Wade: 00:22:27

Okay. So, yeah, so I am growing and evolving and putting myself in positions that I never, ever thought I would be in.

I barely got a C in public speaking in college. So please know anything that I say from this point forward is way outside my comfort zone.

But again, it's part of my purpose, and so I'm super excited about it. Last year, I decided I wanted to keynote an event, and the only way I could figure out that I could keynote was to buy my own stage, and I did that.

So I gave my first keynote speech last year, and then this year I'm going to duplicate the event. So it's on Monday, May 4, in Gainesville, Georgia. We're about an hour northeast of Atlanta, and it's a one Day real estate conference.

And it's going to give me the opportunity to speak on the stage again. It'll be keynote speech number two.

So I'm excited to, to try again and, and it gives me a way to give back to the real estate community and to just really encourage and support real estate agents. I feel like events are so important. It's how I built my production business.

If you guys ever, you know, look at my business, it's a ton of events and I did that by design. You know, I invite people to coffee, invite people to lunch, sponsor events and invite them. I feel like the invitation is very genuine.

And so I thought, well, let's just duplicate that on the agent front and do events for agents and just be a resource for agents. So, yes, it's exciting and scary.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:23:57

Now, you didn't touch on the fun part though. Why don't you just tell about the fun part? Who are you having at this event?

Jessica Wade: 00:24:05

So I have hired Sherry Fitzpatrick. If you guys have ever heard of Sherry's berries, the chocolate covered strawberries.

She is flying in from California and she will have chocolate covered strawberries for everyone. So that's exciting. And it's on May 4th and so may the 4th be with you. Nobody can say that they're going to forget that now that I've said that.

And we will have some Star wars characters at the event as well. So it's super exciting.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:24:32

I love that. That is so much fun.

And, you know, that just shows that, you know, a lot of times people think in real estate that we're all supposed to be like uber professional, right? And that everything that we do has to be like full suit and heels and all dressed up and doing all the professional things.

And when they think of a conference or an event, they're thinking of something that has to be aligned with that instead of realizing, no, like, we can be ourselves and we can have fun and we can be silly and we can have Star wars characters at our speaking event, you know, and it makes it fun. It really makes it fun.

And I think that really speaks to a lot of, you know, a lot of your journey is seeing how we can have balance in our lives and really figuring that out and celebrating it, celebrating the balance, bringing fun, bringing joy, and at the same time doing things that make you nervous and scare you a little bit, but knowing that there's something meaningful behind it. And so I love the purpose that you have and how you share yourself with agents. It's beautiful.

And I ask you two more questions here before we Finish up. So one question is, what do you feel like has been the most difficult part of your real estate journey?

Jessica Wade: 00:26:10

Oh, my goodness. That's a great question. You know, I think boundaries is one of them.

I think I learned early on when I would start to lose business from friends and family. That hurts so badly.

So, like, recognizing that they're making business decisions just like you're making business decisions, and you need to not take it personally and not let that decision interfere with the relationship. I think, you know, that. That part early on. Oh, my goodness. That. That was hard, hard, hard. You know, I think. I don't know. I think those are.

Those are the. The top things that come to mind. It's just, you know, getting business is not easy. You know, I.

My first mentor, he would say, you know, 50 of your day needs to be spent getting business, and 50% of your day needs to be spent taking, like, taking care of the business that you already have. And at first I was like, what do I do for 50 of my day to get business? You know, I didn't want a cold call. I didn't want a door knock.

I didn't understand, like, why so many agents did that and how they were successful. And I think early on, that was a hard thing, is like, what do I do with that time to. To really generate business.

But, you know, I kind of leaned into events and just getting in front of people. So anytime I could get in front of people, that is really what catapulted my business.

But at first, it wasn't easy because I didn't understand what to do. I kept thinking, oh, but they said, I have to call in the phone book. And I was like, I don't want to pick up the phone book and call.

Like, who does that? So I think that was that. Is that what you kind of wanted me to share?

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:27:45

Well, yeah, absolutely. You know, anything that you find is a big challenge.

I think when I started that, really the big challenge for me, I think, is I was so young that I didn't mind picking up the phone and calling people, but my voice sounded like a little girl. I was a little girl. I was a kid.

And so for me, picking up the phone and calling people wasn't as hard as when people were thinking I was a child calling them, and how much experience could I possibly have? And people would literally say, I'm sorry, did you say you're a real estate agent?

Jessica Wade: 00:28:24

How old are you?

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:28:27

Well, I'm 20, but.

Jessica Wade: 00:28:32

Yes.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:28:33

So that was really difficult.

Cold calling as opposed to working with People that I already knew, people that were already in my network and helping them buy a home the way I had just bought one when I was 19. And so it was really about trying to find my people.

Jessica Wade: 00:28:51

Right? Find my people.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:28:53

Yeah. So, yeah, that's really interesting. Now, tell me this. What has been your favorite part of being a real estate agent?

Jessica Wade: 00:29:02

Just being able to interact with so many different types of people. I never really understood how many different types of situations I would be involved in. You know, I.

When I first got my license, I was like, I'm gonna help people. Like, I'm gonna look at all the pretty houses, and I'm gonna.

You know, it'll be all fun, and I'll drive the nice luxury car and, you know, but that is so far from, like, really who I am. And I. I truly didn't understand the impact that I would have on people's lives.

You know, helping a widow work through the process of downsizing and moving into an assisted living, helping a young family who just had a baby, you know, find their first home, and walking them through that journey. I had a sibling set of eight, having to sell mom and dad's property and just working with the different dynamics of the siblings.

You know, they didn't get along and trying to navigate that. You know, I had no idea the impact I would have on people by being a real estate agent. I had one of my clients, they were relocating to the area.

They called me. I helped them buy a home. And then a few weeks later, she asked me to lunch, and she shared her heart with me. And I thought, why would you call me?

And she said, because I knew I could trust you. And that was such a pivotal moment in my business. And that's when I really started to look at my business.

I did look at it transactional for, you know, for a season. But that's when I really recognize the impact that I had on people and that I needed to take that seriously. This is not a transactional business.

This is a relationship business. And I had just no idea the different types of relationships that would come out of me just wanting to show pretty houses and. And do that job.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:30:52

Yeah. No. Okay, so that brings up one more.

I know I said two, but now it brings up another question for me, because that feeling of relational connection with. With the clients, that could be such a big part of not holding the boundaries. Right, Right. Feeling like I'm important. I make an impact on them.

They need me.

Jessica Wade: 00:31:16

Right.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:31:17

And then feeling needed is serving something inside of us.

Jessica Wade: 00:31:21

Right? Yeah. Helping us.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:31:23

Us Feel needed, feel like we matter, like we're important, like we have value, and so it can make it difficult. So how do you juggle those two things together?

Jessica Wade: 00:31:33

Yeah, so, you know, I, like I said, I took control of my time. And so Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays, Tuesdays and Thursdays I'm having coffee with somebody. Friday I'm having coffee or lunch with somebody.

And so I try, like when people reach out to me in those situations, I try to plug them into one of those times because those are my blocks. You know, that's when I have. Have reserved the time for those situations. But it is hard.

You know, you've got some people who will have seasons where they, they need a little bit extra encourage and support and care. But, you know, I feel like you will, you will be provided with what you need to provide.

And so, you know, as long as you stay aware of that and just kind of keep those boundaries in place.

But, yeah, many of, many of my clients have definitely turned into friends as we go through the process, just because we are in their businesses, we are in their lives. We are, you know, on that journey with them for that season.

And it's, you know, some of them are emotional and challenging and stressful and all of those things and where they are to.

I keep saying real estate agents should have a counseling degree because we are interacting with people on so many different levels of fear and anxiety. And, you know, we're trying to counsel them and keep their emotions in check and we can't let ourselves get caught up in the emotions sometimes.

But, you know, I feel like those who are meant to be long term time friends will kind of bubble up and you'll know which ones to spend more time with.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:32:59

Yeah, absolutely. And that's beautiful. Well, Jessica, thank you so, so much for being my very first guest on this podcast, Breaking the Script.

And I'm really excited to get this out to everybody and start normalizing these types of conversations where we share what. What has made us vulnerable along the way and what our journeys have actually been like and how we managed to do all this.

Jessica Wade: 00:33:25

So it's like, it's crazy out here. It is so welcome. You are so welcome. It's my honor and privilege to be a part of this.

Angela Kristen Taylor: 00:33:34

Yeah. Thank you.

All right, well, you guys look forward to another episode coming up soon, but until then, thank you so much for listening and please feel free to leave a review, send us some stars, whatever, however you do it, and we'll see you next time.